Dave's Top Eight

1. Jerry Reed...Revisited by Darrell Toney (reviewed 6/07) (5 Stars)
2. Sounds Like Sunday by Janet Paschal (reviewed 5/07) (5 Stars)
3. True To The Call by Kingdom Heirs (reviewed 3/07) (4 1/2 Stars)
4. Revival by Gold City (reviewed 10/06) (4 1/2 Stars)
5. Get Away Jordan by Ernie Haase & Signature Sound (reviewed 2/07) (4 1/2 Stars)
6. Breakin' Chains by Three Bridges (reviewed 5/07) (4 1/2 Stars)
7. Big Sky by The Isaacs (reviewed 4/07)
8. Skywriting by Mercy's Well (reviewed 7/07)

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February 21, 2007

Who's Nominated Or Inducted?

In a comment to yesterday's blog entry, Chris Unthank has objected to some of my opinions on the matter of Dove Award nominations and GMA Hall Of Fame inductions. I also received a private email from an individual generally agreeing with me, but asking, "Where do you draw the line?"
Here's Chris' comment (in blue). My reply is in black below.
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I guess I fail to see how it's a stretch to say they are a Dove Nominated artist if the entire group appeared on the video. If the project wins - each participant will recieve a statue for their participation. They are dove nominated.

Now I agree that if JBIF started claiming they were Dove nominated for the work that Stephanie and Jeremy did on the recording - that would be a stretch.

The whole choir wasn't nominated - just those individuals that participated.

As to the GMA Hall of Fame thing - Pete Orta has every right to say that he is a GMA Hall of Fame inductee. Every former member of a group is inducted because of their participation - regardless of how long they were a member. If they've got the medal to prove it - then they're a GMA Hall of Fame inductee.
--Chris Unthank
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Chris,
My opinion is held up by the official records. If you pull up a list of GMA Hall Of Fame members, you will see Petra listed, but you won't see Orta's name. The GMA inducts individual members separate from groups. Roger Breland really IS in the Hall Of Fame, for example, separate from Truth.

It diminishes the accomplishments of a true individual member of the HOF when group members claim they're in the hall, while neglecting to mention it was for their participation as part of a group.

The medallion around their neck in the photo merely means they were there at the ceremony as one of several individuals representing the group at that point in time. Former members of the Kingsmen who didn't make it to the ceremony have just as much stake in the group being inducted as those who attended. Even Tony Peace, who joined the Kingsmen after their induction and only stayed for a year or so, can legitimately say he's a former member of a GMA Hall Of Fame group if he wants. As long as he maintains proper context, there's nothing wrong with using that to bolster his reputation.

The same applies to Dove Awards. If the Crabb Family is nominated for Artist Of The Year, they collectively are Dove nominees. When Blur The Lines is nominated for Inspirational album, however, THE nominee is the project. The participants (artist, producer, label) that are listed after the album nomination are only nominated within the context of the album.

Stewart Varnado's vast PR department could roll out ad copy stating he participated in the Dove nominated Torch project. That would be well and good. However, it would be misleading to say he was nominated without mentioning the context, as if he specifically had a Dove nomination on his own. If Torch wins, the record will state that Torch won...not Varnado.

So, to answer the private email I received and hopefully Chris as well, I draw the line at context.
I see no problem with someone saying they were nominated or inducted "as part of" etc. I think we should reserve the individual claims, however, for those individuals who were THE nominee. For example, an individual nominated for Producer Of The Year really is a Dove nominated producer. An producer whose project was nominated for a Dove Award, in contrast, is just that...they should specify that the project they worked on was nominated rather than merely saying THEY were nominated.

To do otherwise, whether you're an artist or a PR firm acting on behalf of an artist, causes people to draw inaccurate conclusions.

2/22/07 (12:15 AM) FOLLOW-UP: Since posting this, I have done a little more digging. Chris mentioned that if Torch were to happen to win, every artist would receive a statuette from the GMA, giving them legitimacy in claiming to be a Dove Award winner. I pulled up the official rules, and this doesn't seem to be the case.

In the Special Event Album category, the statuette goes to the artist IF the artist is "prominent." Otherwise, it either goes to the named "Creator" or "Producer" of the project. There is no prominent artist on Torch. It looks like the statuette recipients would be Ed Leonard, Crystal Burchette, Mike Speck, Rick Shelton, and Melody Van Nuss rather than the 30 or so artists who appeared on Torch.

Of course, we'll never know unless Torch wins. Chris said this was unlikely in a comment at southerngospelblog. I agree with him on that. Projects like the DC Talk tribute Freaked!, Integrity's Arise and Sparrow Records' Passion probably stand a better chance.

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