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David Bruce Murray
Nov 17, 2008
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Some Artists CAN Play And Sing Well

Recently, Doug Harrison posted a blog article titled “Double Threat.” The question raised is why Southern Gospel artists don’t play their own instruments. It’s been interesting to watch the comments pooh-poohing the idea.

Tanner Stahl says it’s difficult for him to do both well at the same time; he’d rather focus on doing one or the other really well. Fair enough, but surely there are some artists talented enough to do both.

John goes off on a tangent about how bad the singers are in Country music. He has a point, I suppose, but their fans don’t seem to mind when they’re spending $50-100 per ticket and more to see them in concert.

Art thinks a live performance requires at least 16 instruments before tracks can be replaced in Southern Gospel.

I was thinking about drawing a comparison to the early iterations of the Crabb Family, back when the band was mostly made up of family members. But then, I read today’s blog article by Kyle Boreing. He features a YouTube clip of Marty Stuart and his Fabulous Superlatives singing “The Unseen Hand.” In this clip, one group member is playing a guitar while Marty and two other guys sing inspired trio harmony around a single microphone. This clip doesn’t demonstrate the full scope of what they can do. On Gaither’s recent pair of Country/Bluegrass DVDs, all four members of the Superlatives sing and play instruments with an emphasis on blending vocal harmony that isn’t too far from Southern Gospel. See below.

So, it CAN be done. The idea just isn’t considered by most Southern Gospel artists. If it’s due to lack of musical ability, that’s fair enough. If it’s mostly due to the fear that fans will miss hearing all the brass and horns in your Milton Smith production, though, that’s a sad reason to opt for not including instruments. Adding instruments is one way to make your group stand out in a genre where most groups are satisfied with the status quo.

8 Responses to "Some Artists CAN Play And Sing Well"

1 | Dean Adkins

November 18th, 2008 at 12:18 am

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And they (Superlatives) are wearing ties.

2 | abk

November 18th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

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Wearing matching suits even!

Great music, I’m a big Marty Stuart fan.

3 | John

November 20th, 2008 at 12:13 am

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Wow, I got mentioned on Musicscribe! I have arrived!

No, seriously, I did not think I went on a “tangent” but can understand why it might have been taken that way.

I enjoyed the clip from Marty Stuart and the boys, but, do you really think that they are better than the top tier of SG?

Does that harmony even come close to the Booth Brothers? No.

I stand by my assertion that the best vocalists are in SG.

4 | admin

November 20th, 2008 at 12:46 am

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John,
Doug questioned why Southern Gospel artists don’t try the approach of playing instruments in addition to singing. What you said in response, to me, seemed only marginally related.

It’s fine to assert that Southern Gospel has the best vocalists, but why wouldn’t they add instruments to their act for the sake of variety? By the way, opera fans would strongly disagree that SG has the best vocalists, I’m sure.

What I mean is that your opinion seems to be driven more by your personal taste than any objective standard.

One objective standard I like to apply is marketability…if that’s a real word. Tickets for Marty’s Nov. 21 appearance along with Travis Tritt range from $36 to $52. From all I can gather, he plays about three dates per month.

The Booths are singing on Nov. 21 at a church. It is a ticketed event, but I can’t find an amount listed to compare. On Nov. 22, they will appear at a $18/$20 event along with the Hoppers. It’s a Frank Arnold promotion. They appear to sing about 12-15 dates per month. Like most SG artists, they’re on tour virtually every weekend, where most Country acts will either tour for several weeks and then take time off, or tour a few dates per month as Marty Stuart appears to do.

Of course, there are other objective standards, such as whether or not all the members of a group are singing with a similar tone and hitting pitches together. Stuart’s group does that. With a blues inflection, they bend a few notes here and there. So, to a certain degree, that’s still a matter of taste, but you could certainly tell if they weren’t doing a decent job of singing together.

I think both artists are pretty good…in different ways.

5 | John

November 20th, 2008 at 10:18 am

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David, I undertstand why you thought that my post was misplaced. A couple of things about that:

1. I am not a regular poster on AVFL. I think I have only posted once before this.

2. I posted that where I did only because this seemed to be one more way in a long list to slam SG on AVFL.

Now, as to your assertion that my opinions are driven by personal tatses, that is normally the first accusation leveled at someone on these blogs. I am surprised you resorted to it.

Actally, I would like to think that I am pretty objective. I have sat in some concerts listening to my favorite singers who at times have had pitch problems. Call a spade a spade.

For instance, the Cathedrals are my all time favorites. Just the best. But, the CD that had the song “Healing” on it is one that I can barely stand. The blend on that song in particualr is awful. Really. Take a listen. Ernie is way too loud, and there is no blend.

Now, as to marketability, there is one thing that you leave out of your equation about the costs of tickets to the two concerts you chose to compare. That is that the Gospel is a stumbling stone to some. It will never be as marketable as secular music.

See, whe have an inferiority complex. We judge everything we do by the wrong litmus test. So we don’t sell tickets at the same price as Marty Staurt. Big deal. We never will. We need to get over it.

That kind of thinking is not helpful. What will thinking that way accomplish?

David, this post is not meant to be an attack, just sharing opinions.

6 | admin

November 20th, 2008 at 11:35 am

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John,

No offense taken.

You’re mistaken about ticket prices, though. There are plenty of Christian concert events where tickets run in the same $35-50 range that Marty Stuart gets. I just don’t know of any acts who sing exclusively with tracks that can regularly get that amount of money for a concert.

Also, I don’t use a single litmus test for quality. That’s why I mentioned more than just tickets prices as standards. But ticket prices shouldn’t be entirely discounted.

If the driving purpose is to spread the Gospel, as so many groups claim that it is, you’d think they’d want to use proven methods that make their music more appealing to a greater group of people. Concert goers who are willing to drop that much money on an evening of music are not going to hear a group sing with tracks, no matter how much better the vocals may happen to be. Of course, there are a few exceptions, but I’m speaking of the overall music scene.

7 | John

November 20th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

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Doesn’t the price of the ticket say more about the concert attendee than it does about the artist?

In other words, the artist is charging what the market is willing or capable to pay. Even if the Booth Brothers had a 20 piece orchestra behind them, they will not be able to demand the flat that MArty Stuart can.

There is nothing that I can think of that we can do to change that. Most Christian music, especially that that tells the real message of the gospel, will never draw a secular crowd. Even if the artists were of better quality than a secular artist, even if the stage presentation were better, even if everything about SG was better than a secular artist, the SG concert will never draw a secular crowd. It will never bring in as much money. Just not gonna happen.

Should we always strive to be the best we can be? Of course. Will that make us more acceptable with secular audiences? Of course not.

8 | admin

November 20th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

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John,
If we were talking about ultra high concert tickets, you’d have a valid point, but we aren’t talking about the Rolling Stones and seats that run $200 or more. We’re talking about the $30-$50 range. Christian audiences HAVE proven they’ll pay that much over and over again.

Have you priced tickets lately for Casting Crowns, Michael W. Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, etc.? I was unable to attend, but I when I checked out the price for Smith and Chapman’s United tour several few weeks ago, tickets were $38, with nearly $14 in Ticketmaster fees, bringing the total to more than $50 per seat.

These are artists that travel with a band, full blown light show, and more…and they sing Christian music. It’s just a completely different mindset.

Now, of course, no artist can start at that level and make ends meet. The very first time I ever saw Steven Curtis Chapman, it was just him singing tracks while playing a guitar. I have seen Ronnie Booth play a guitar in the past, but it was more like a one shot deal.

I know that all artists aren’t talented enough to do both at the same time. Some are, though, and it makes no sense to just sing when you have the skill to appeal to more people.

NewSong used to be four guys singing to tracks and standing in a straight line. They weren’t Southern Gospel, but they used the same methods of presentation that most SG groups use. Their career jumped exponentially when Russ Lee, Charles Billingsley, and Scotty Wilbanks came on board. They became known for their exciting stage show. The size of their audience at a typical performance went from a few hundred to several thousand.

We could go back and forth on this for a while, but I’ve made my point. Feel free to have the last word.

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